What to eat during a long event recently came up here, on Armour Archive.
Having just finished a semester of nutrition for performance, here's what I replied:
While fighting the primary thing your body is losing is water and electrolytes.
Think
about the time you spend on the field. In your armour you're pretty
much always sweating (heck I sweat through my gambeson at a frostbite
tourney). But most of the time is spent standing around or maybe
walking. Interspersed are brief bits of max intensity action. While
those are physically demanding, they don't actually burn that many
calories. And your muscles also highly active, but you shouldn't be sore
like you are after a session of strength training.
The needs are to replace electrolytes and water. You don't actually have a high need for either carbs or protein at this time.
There
are plenty of ways to replenish electrolytes: gatorade, jerky, pickles
etc. So you need to find what appeals to you and what has worked in the
past.
You need to eat enough that you don't feel hungry or tired.
Obviously those will impede performance and these will vary from person
to person and how that day is going (or how last night went). And to
meet this need you should eat whatever you like to eat and has worked
for you in the past. Eating lean meats is going to be preferable to
fatty meats, for most people, because the fattier meals tend to be
harder on the digestion.
The question asked was about event
foods. And not recovery from training. Training should be much more
demanding than fighting and so the needs are different and increased.
Of course, the topic of protein came up in the discussion:
You don't burn protein for energy under normal circumstance. Protein
metabolism has noxious by-products (due to the nitrogen), so the body
always keeps it to a minimum. Except in starvation. Using your muscles a
bunch doesn't lead to protein metabolism.
If your muscles are
sore, and in need of repair, then protein is needed. But the repair
process takes time. If you're sore on Saturday then the repair process
won't be complete until Monday or Tuesday. Protein consumption does not
meaningfully affect this process. Protein consumption simply isn't gonna
make a difference for Sunday.
Of course, that's no reason not to eat food you enjoy! One of the things I liked about my nutrition class was the repeated emphasis on Enjoying Food.
And
the only thing that doesn't recover in a day or less is muscle soreness
of the kind that would be fixed by protein consumption. There are
different ways for a muscle to be sore (including Delayed Onset, where I
don't hurt until after I get home from the event ).
Some
of those other kinds of sore can be fixed faster. For instance cramps
may be fixed by stretching, massage and/or electrolytes depending on
cause.
Physical Training and Biomechanics for Swordplay and other Combat Sports and Martial Arts.
Thursday, May 17, 2012
Sunday, May 13, 2012
Olympic Lifts v. Kettlebells
A recent journal article(1) on kettlebells initiated another round of discussion on the merits and/or advantages of the kettlebell. I want to talk about that, and I will in a moment, but just to be clear: I have nothing against kettlebells. My objection is when folks think they are better than another tool at everything, as opposed to using them for what they do well and using the correct tool for other objectives.
First, the results of the study: conventional weightlifting was superior to the kettlebell training.
Now, listen to how the results are described by the authors,
In all three tests (power clean and back squat 1RM and vertical jump) the conventional training produced larger gains. In the vertical jump and power clean the gains were close enough to each other that the differences were not statistically significant.
Which brings me to the next point: significance. The fact that the test for statistical significance was "passed" does not mean the results are significant in any other way. The increase in jump height for the KB group was less than 2mm. This is not telling, not meaningful, not important, not momentous, not compelling, or frankly even suggestive (yup, I used a thesaurus).
True, the conventional protocol produced jump height gains of just under a centimeter, so it wasn't any of those synonyms either.
On to the conversation! There have been numerous blog posts about this already. And there are two criticisms of the study that I've seen multiple times, so I'd like to address them.
A. The test procedures. Others have criticized the selection of tests on the grounds that they don't test what the kettlebell training trains or the tests are more similar to the weightlifting exercises so of course that group got better.
The tests selected for this study are standard tests. This has two advantages. First the results of this test can be compared to other studies that used the same test. Second, there is already a body of literature demonstrating that these tests correlate to actual measures of athletic performance. Both of these point are important for useful science.
If the conventional weightlifting exercises and tests are more similar, doesn't that tell us that the specificity of those exercises is higher? Remember, correlation between those test and athletic performance have already been demonstrated.
And while kettlebell exercises can be useful, one characteristic they don't possess is a high degree of movement specificity to many sport actions. (They are instead good for metabolic specificity etc.)
B. Another criticism was that the weights used for the KB protocol were too light. For the KB protocol everyone used a 16kg bell. For the conventional training 80% of 1RM was used, which was substantially higher. Some argued that the KB group should have used the same weight as the conventional group.
There are two problems with this criticism. The typical KB program uses the same weight or a narrow range and the objective is to increase reps not weight. The KB protocol used in this study looks like others I've seen suggested for kettlebell training.
But the sillier part is that the researchers couldn't have used kettlebells heavy enough for 80% of 1RM. They would have needed a set of KB's that went from around 60kg to 150kg. The largest I could find online was 48kg. And a blog post that a manufacture was planning to go up to 100 kg. So weights that size would've been impossible to get.
And why? Because KB training isn't done that way. The researchers compared a typical KB approach to a typical Olympic lifting approach. That's reasonable.
Lastly, a pet peeve of mind when it comes to discussing kettlebells. There were no kettlebell exercises done as part of this study. There were exercises done with kettlebells. All of the KB protocol could have been done with dumbbells. And for cheaper
1. Otto WH 3rd, Coburn JW, Brown LE, Spiering BA (2012). Effects of weightlifting vs. kettlebell training on vertical jump, strength, and body composition. Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, volume 26(5),1199-202
First, the results of the study: conventional weightlifting was superior to the kettlebell training.
Now, listen to how the results are described by the authors,
The principle finding of the present study was that short-term kettlebell training significantly increased vertical jump, and that the gain in vertical jump performance was equivalent to that achieved with a combination of [Olympic] weightlifting and traditional heavy resistance training exercises.
Both kettlebell and training and weightlifting increased back squat 1RM.
The results of the present study indicated that both weightlifting and kettlebell movements are effective in improving back squat and power clean 1RM as well as vertical jump ability; however, weightlifting exercises are more effective for strength development.Does this sound like the weightlifting was superior?
In all three tests (power clean and back squat 1RM and vertical jump) the conventional training produced larger gains. In the vertical jump and power clean the gains were close enough to each other that the differences were not statistically significant.
Which brings me to the next point: significance. The fact that the test for statistical significance was "passed" does not mean the results are significant in any other way. The increase in jump height for the KB group was less than 2mm. This is not telling, not meaningful, not important, not momentous, not compelling, or frankly even suggestive (yup, I used a thesaurus).
True, the conventional protocol produced jump height gains of just under a centimeter, so it wasn't any of those synonyms either.
On to the conversation! There have been numerous blog posts about this already. And there are two criticisms of the study that I've seen multiple times, so I'd like to address them.
A. The test procedures. Others have criticized the selection of tests on the grounds that they don't test what the kettlebell training trains or the tests are more similar to the weightlifting exercises so of course that group got better.
The tests selected for this study are standard tests. This has two advantages. First the results of this test can be compared to other studies that used the same test. Second, there is already a body of literature demonstrating that these tests correlate to actual measures of athletic performance. Both of these point are important for useful science.
If the conventional weightlifting exercises and tests are more similar, doesn't that tell us that the specificity of those exercises is higher? Remember, correlation between those test and athletic performance have already been demonstrated.
And while kettlebell exercises can be useful, one characteristic they don't possess is a high degree of movement specificity to many sport actions. (They are instead good for metabolic specificity etc.)
B. Another criticism was that the weights used for the KB protocol were too light. For the KB protocol everyone used a 16kg bell. For the conventional training 80% of 1RM was used, which was substantially higher. Some argued that the KB group should have used the same weight as the conventional group.
There are two problems with this criticism. The typical KB program uses the same weight or a narrow range and the objective is to increase reps not weight. The KB protocol used in this study looks like others I've seen suggested for kettlebell training.
But the sillier part is that the researchers couldn't have used kettlebells heavy enough for 80% of 1RM. They would have needed a set of KB's that went from around 60kg to 150kg. The largest I could find online was 48kg. And a blog post that a manufacture was planning to go up to 100 kg. So weights that size would've been impossible to get.
And why? Because KB training isn't done that way. The researchers compared a typical KB approach to a typical Olympic lifting approach. That's reasonable.
Lastly, a pet peeve of mind when it comes to discussing kettlebells. There were no kettlebell exercises done as part of this study. There were exercises done with kettlebells. All of the KB protocol could have been done with dumbbells. And for cheaper
1. Otto WH 3rd, Coburn JW, Brown LE, Spiering BA (2012). Effects of weightlifting vs. kettlebell training on vertical jump, strength, and body composition. Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, volume 26(5),1199-202
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